| Author |
Thread Statistics | Show CCP posts - 0 post(s) |
Helmut 314
   |
Posted - 2005.04.03 15:05:00 -
[1]
Can we have the grid requirement dropped a bit, please ?
To fit 4 medium beams I have to fit 2 MAPC to the frigate ingame with the largest grid all categories: the Retribution. Thats just not right. Since you are taking away the medium pulse usefulness we need an option, and dual light beams/pulse isnt it.
___________________________________
Trying is the first step of failure
- Homer J Simpson |
Helmut 314
|
Posted - 2005.04.03 16:34:00 -
[2]
I have no problem hitting frigs with medium beams, the problem is fitting the beams to my ship. Tracking and range are just fine, all they need is a small grid adjustment.
___________________________________
Trying is the first step of failure
- Homer J Simpson |
Helmut 314
|
Posted - 2005.04.03 18:52:00 -
[3]
Edited by: Helmut 314 on 03/04/2005 18:52:47
2 mw is not enough, 3 would be a better number. That would put medium beam II at 15 MW and medium beam I at 13 MW, still more than all other frigate weaponry, but still enough to fit on the top amarr frigates. One MAPC would be enough on a Retribution.
Dual light beams are not an issue, the medium beam is.
___________________________________
Trying is the first step of failure
- Homer J Simpson |
Helmut 314
|
Posted - 2005.04.04 15:50:00 -
[4]
Yes Gareth, I wrote usefulness and I stand by that. 30% off on optimal makes small pulse lasers more dangerous to use, thereby limiting their usefulness. The lasers are medium range weapons primarily, thats where they excel. Medium range for small pulse lasers approaches blaster ranges with the best crystals fitted. If I want to go that close blasters or autocannon are better. Thats what I mean by usefulness.
___________________________________
Trying is the first step of failure
- Homer J Simpson |
Helmut 314
|
Posted - 2005.04.04 21:19:00 -
[5]
 Originally by: Ratzap
I agree. I'm a hybrid man but I recently got an Amarr Navy Slicer and I can't fit beam lasers, the PG requirements are just too high. I ended up putting 3 150mm rails on it to get decent range :-/
It's an Amarr ship tho damnit! I want to be able to fit beams.
Ratzap
Blasphemy!
You wont see me flying my Slicer with anything but lasers!
___________________________________
Trying is the first step of failure
- Homer J Simpson |
Helmut 314
|
Posted - 2005.04.05 21:09:00 -
[6]
Well, the issue isnt the damage of medium beams, but how hard they are to fit.
___________________________________
Trying is the first step of failure
- Homer J Simpson |
Helmut 314
|
Posted - 2005.04.06 07:03:00 -
[7]
Originally by: Selim
Edited by: Selim on 06/04/2005 02:52:48
nyxus:
Well, it really is.
EM is best damage on a tank, explosive is second best. Resistsances work for all guns, you know...
Lasers dont have to reload ever either, thats a significant increase in damage over time.
That is a statement that is provably false. If i fit all EM hardeners and tank just for that EM is worst damage. Please stop.
This thread is about the excessive grid requirements of medium beam lasers, not your personal hangups, Selim.
___________________________________
Trying is the first step of failure
- Homer J Simpson |
Helmut 314
|
Posted - 2005.04.06 19:18:00 -
[8]
If the probability of a wrecking hit at any given time is 1/100 a turret with higher ROF will typically make more wrecking hits per engagement. If you however fire an equal amount of shots the number of wrecking hits would typically be similar.
But this is about reducing grid requirements on small beam lasers, not probabilistics.
___________________________________
Trying is the first step of failure
- Homer J Simpson |
Helmut 314
|
Posted - 2005.04.07 10:15:00 -
[9]
Well, I dont mind discussing things like damage calculations etc, but I would prefer if we could keep it in a separate thread.
___________________________________
Trying is the first step of failure
- Homer J Simpson |
Helmut 314
|
Posted - 2005.04.12 07:56:00 -
[10]
Medium beam lasers need a grid reduction of 3 mw, thats it. Damage and tracking are fine.
___________________________________
Trying is the first step of failure
- Homer J Simpson |
Helmut 314
|
Posted - 2005.04.15 17:29:00 -
[11]
Originally by: Toran Mehtar
I don't see what the fuss is about, I think beams are fine.
I say think they're fine, because I'm not sure. I would be sure, if it were actually possible to fit a reasonable number on any ship so that I could test them; but I can't.
Medium beam lasers need a 3mw grid reduction. Thats all.
___________________________________
Trying is the first step of failure
- Homer J Simpson |
| |
|